How To Get The Most Out Of Thiollier’s Hidden Needle In Elden Ring Shadow Of The Erdtree? - Choose The Right Build

In Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree, many things are added that are not in the base game, and Thiollier’s Hidden Needle is no exception. In addition to adding new weapons and spells, it also adds a brand new status effect, Eternal Sleep. Eternal Sleep is a little different from the previous normal sleep effect. Eternal Sleep can be triggered by using either Velvet Sword of St. Trina or Thiollier’s Hidden Needle.

Although Thiollier’s Hidden Needle is useless in PVE mode, because most bosses in the DLC are resistant to sleep or Eternal Sleep effects. But in PVP mode, when it is used with Thiollier’s Hidden Needle’s ash of war Sleep Evermore, it is absolutely invincible.

How To Get The Most Out Of Thiollier’s Hidden Needle In Elden Ring Shadow Of The Erdtree? - Choose The Right Build

But for a weapon, the effect it can produce depends on the build you make for it. So this guide will give you a detailed introduction on how to choose the best build for Thiollier’s Hidden Needle.

Best Attribute Distribution

Before choosing a build, you need to know that Thiollier’s Hidden Needle is mainly developed through Dexterity, and then Intelligence. So in terms of attributes, you need to first increase Dexterity to 70, and then invest the remaining skill points in Intelligence to maximize your damage.

In addition, you also need to know that Ash of War does not consume a lot of your FP, so you only need to invest 10 points in Mind. But if you want to integrate spells into your build, you can consider investing a little more.

In Faith attribute, you can invest 25 points to reach the minimum requirement of Golden Vow. But if you don’t need this buff in daily tasks and exploration, you can choose to ignore it. You can use Uplifting Aromatic instead. Here are the minimum points you need to make sure you have for each attribute before building:

  • Vigor 40
  • Endurance 24
  • Mind 10
  • Strength 10
  • Dexterity 70
  • Intelligence 40
  • Faith 25
  • Arcane 10

Best Gear

After choosing your attributes, you will start to choose some gear that can be matched with Thiollier’s Hidden Needle. Many players will ask, why should it be matched with other weapons? Can’t it be used alone?

Obviously not, because the effect of using Thiollier’s Hidden Needle alone is not good, first because it has a short range, and second because it can only cause a small amount of Eternal Sleep effect when used alone. Therefore, when it is used with the right items and weapons, it will be easier to get Elden Ring Runes.

Here are the weapons and items you can choose to match it with in the DLC.

Velvet Sword of St. Trina

When you use Velvet Sword of St. Trina, it will project a cloud that will put the target into Eternal Sleep. You can switch to Thiollier’s Hidden Needle and use its Ash of War to defeat the enemy.

Spread Crossbow

For this weapon, you can put it in your off-hand. This way, when you use it in combat, each shot will fire multiple arrows. Combined with Thiollier’s Hidden Needle in your dominant hand, you can kill enemies faster when they enter Eternal Sleep.

Eternal Sleep Pot

In the DLC, many ritual pots were added, one of which is Eternal Sleep Pot. This Elden Ring Item allows you to throw 10 pots at once to cause the sleep effect.

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Best Talisman

Since Thiollier’s Hidden Needle can cause Eternal Sleep, you can choose some amulets in the DLC that can also cause this effect, or amulets that help you increase the effect. For example, Shard of Alexander, St. Trina’s Smile, Ritual Sword Talisman, and Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman.

Although Companion Jar can help you increase the damage caused by throwing jars, it does not increase the accumulation of Eternal Sleep status, so you can ignore it in this build.

Best Wondrous Physik Mixture

It should be noted here that Wondrous Physik is not very useful for this build, so you can use any crystal tear you like.

But this definitely does not mean that there are no best choices. You can choose Opaline Hardtear and Opaline Bubbletear to enhance your defense, or Greenburst Crystal Tear is also a very good auxiliary item.

How To Use The Build?

After you have selected all your weapons, items and attributes, you can start using your build. First, you need to equip Spread Crossbow in your off-hand and bring Sleepbone bolts. This way, you can quickly put the enemy target to sleep.

In some cases, you can also use sleep pots and ritual sleep pots. You must remember that the first priority is to put the enemy player to sleep or sleep forever.

Once the state is in effect, you can equip Thiollier’s Hidden Needle in both hands and use its Ash of War to hit the enemy. This will cause a lot of damage to their health, and finally a heavy hit will kill them.

After understanding the construction of Thiollier’s Hidden Needle, have you opened the steps in this guide to change your build step by step? I hope it can help you when you use Thiollier’s Hidden Needle in combat. Wish you a happy game!

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